Hi guys, just saw this thread--8 months after its original post. I haven't been here in awhile, lol.

Anyway, it's Bobby's frog for me. I have only had one dud that was off-balance and didn't walk well out of 5 frogs. I wish I could catch swimbait fish as well as I do with the frog. I love frogging! I have only caught a couple swimbait fish over the years. That's big trout swimbaits btw, not 5-6.5 inch Big Hammers. A big reason for the the lack of success with the swimbaits, is probably the lack of quality time and quality water I'm fishing (local park ponds--urk!).

Back to the frog. I have got them good on the small waters I fish. Like others mentioned, you gotta throw it all day or at least the majority of your session when starting. I only took the frog rod when I was learning to force me to fish it. I get them on the slop or in open with a bunch of bites coming off the slop a few feet into open water. When learning to openwater walk, don't twitch too hard and be sure to throw slack in the line after each twitch to allow the bait to wander. Also, I only tried to walk it for about 4-5 twitches and then paused to maintain my form. This sometimes triggered strikes, too. I always go with the goal of just triggering a strike and worry about hooking it later (not too much later, lol). I shorten the legs a bit, thin them out a few strands, that's it. Colors for me are solid white and solid black. Good luck.