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Topic subjectpyramid
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11219, pyramid
Posted by dilbertman2001, Fri Oct-10-03 07:35 PM
i was thinking of going to pyramid some time soon, any suggestions on SMB, LMB or the stripers??

thanks
11221, RE: pyramid
Posted by , Sat Oct-11-03 11:13 AM
This would be only 1 suggestion. Try different methods as well. Since they have begun planting trout & cooler temps have arrived try trolling a 6" swimmer (trout-imitation) around the dam for stripers. But, first off get there as early as possible, throw your swimmer around the boat dock area. Try various spots near there. Trout like hanging out by the marina & the biggie stripers love to catch them off guard. :o <*}}}}><}
11232, RE: pyramid
Posted by Jeff, Mon Oct-13-03 03:44 AM
I just had my club tourney up there yesterday and the small stripers were busting shad all day long. You could get them on jerkbaits & topwaters. As for the smallies, small small and few in between. The largies were somewhat better but you will really have to work for a keeper size fish. Lots of 12 1/2" rats! Good luck!
11244, RE: pyramid
Posted by dilbertman2001, Mon Oct-13-03 04:14 PM
rats as in rainbows... on what? which jekbaits...sort of like rapalas... thanks
11246, RE: pyramid
Posted by okiebug, Mon Oct-13-03 07:00 PM
hey
give it a mounth the middle of nov. goes off with the shad coming up stripers at the dam on hoppkins spoons and lg mouth on shad raps
take it from me I grew up 3 miles from the lake and know it like my own private lake
11247, RE: pyramid
Posted by WellFairFisher, Mon Oct-13-03 07:28 PM
I fish Pyramid and Castaic as much as possible. Does anyone know why the Stripers at Castaic don't bust all day on the shad like they do at Pyramid??? My thought has always been that there are way more fish at pyramid and not a big enough shad population....What do you guys think????
11248, RE: pyramid
Posted by JerryG, Mon Oct-13-03 08:04 PM
I agree definitely much higher population of stripers at Pyramid but most are small in comparison to the stripers at Castiac. Not to say there are aren't any big ones in Pyramid or small ones in Castiac but my experience has been that Pyramid has better numbers and Castiac has better quality on average. You can be sure that Pyramid holds big stripers as well. As far as shad are concerned I really don't know which lake has more but it seems like the stripers at Castiac are feeding on small bass along the Dam. I whitnessed some of this when I was there last Friday. I fished the shore for a couple hours during the late afternoon evening. I hooked a big striper on 5" mackerel pattern swimbait (imitates a small bass). The fish rolled on it about 10' from shore, it was an awesome sight to see. I was using 15lb Ande and I'm confident the line would have held up if it didn't get fraid from contact with a local reef while fighting a black seabass the week before. The only one to blame there is myself. I've learned that lesson too many times to let something like happen but it did. I'll back this week with some fresh line.


JerryG
11249, RE: pyramid
Posted by Jeff, Tue Oct-14-03 06:06 AM
No the term I used for rats is when you catch lots of the same size small bass, some also call them clones. I was using a Lucky Craft pointer jerkbait. The shad were busted on by both the bass and stripers. It was an awesome site! I will have to go up and take the kid this time to get her into some of that action!
11252, RE: pyramid
Posted by kpn, Tue Oct-14-03 11:30 AM
JerryG.
Did you hooked the big Striper on the upper lake along the Dam, close to the East Ramp ? Have you been there early in the morning ? I only been there in the West Ramp area . Would you please give me some directions how to get there( If you don't mind ). I like to try some new area in that Lake . Any info is greatly appriciated .
Khanh.
11257, RE: pyramid
Posted by okiebug, Tue Oct-14-03 05:27 PM
The pyrmid stripers school diffrent than castaic ones. The big ones, you dont get them to school on shad mostly trout. the small ones 3 to 5 lbs nail shad all day cuz they are to small to nail trout. same size at castais only early or late beats me. I think pyramid has more and bigger ive caught 35lb+ at pyramid only 22lb at castaic
11262, RE: pyramid
Posted by JerryG, Tue Oct-14-03 11:24 PM
I was on the upper Lake. I don't think the lower lake holds stripers. There may be a few stragler stripers in there but you want to be fishing the upper lake if you plan on targeting stripers. To be honest you may want to check Pyramid. I have had far better luck on the stripers at Pyramid but anyways if you try fishing them at Castiac your odds will increase prefferably from a boat if possible but you might have a shot at one of these fish if you shore walk the Dam as I was doing. I access the Dam from what I believe was the East Ramp. If I'm not mistaken the West Ramp is the one where the Life Guard Office is located. If there's no access to the Dam then your at the wrong ramp. Good luck.

JerryG
11263, RE: pyramid
Posted by kpn, Wed Oct-15-03 05:27 AM
Okiebug.
Did you catch those big one from shore or from a boat ? what kind of baits / lures did you use ? I don't own a boat , may be i can rent one . I'm still learning to fishing for Stripers . Very good table fare too. Thanks .
Khanh.
11264, RE: pyramid
Posted by JerryG, Wed Oct-15-03 07:00 AM
I also have a question for Okiebug. Do you think that the bigger stripers in Pyramid take advantage of the large population of small stripers by feeding on them? I supose trout are the prefferred bait but when the trout are scarce I would think their feeding habits and the availibility of small strippers may drive them to canabilism. Not sure about that though. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

JerryG
11266, RE: pyramid
Posted by Team Striper, Wed Oct-15-03 08:59 AM
Okiebug? This must be Karl, no one else grew up that close to Pyramid.
I see you found the site.

Khanh, this guy KNOWS Pyramid!

Karl, maybe we should do a trip this fall, put Khanh on some linesides.

Jerry, We know for a fact the bigger stripers eat those schoolies that have infested the lake.

The lake has gone through some changes since we used to live there & doesn't contain near the # of big fish it used to.

I know it's tough but people need to keep the sm. fish & release the larger ones at Pyramid.

Josh
11274, RE: pyramid
Posted by , Wed Oct-15-03 11:30 PM
What's the legal size for stripers at Pyramid? I know it's 18" at Castaic. But, it's less at Pyramid, right?
11307, RE: pyramid
Posted by okiebug, Sun Oct-19-03 05:22 PM
Yes as sad as it seems stripers in pyramid are canables in the early 80's when they shut the lake for construction repairs and did not stock trout for some time the lake was low low low and I saw 10 Lb stripers nailing 4 to 6 inch stripers Ive also caught 20 lbers on deep diving striper colored baits
11308, RE: pyramid
Posted by okiebug, Sun Oct-19-03 05:28 PM
Khanh
Mostly from shore with big baits trout colored swimbaits also work well if this doesnt produce hit the dam with anchoves on the fly maybe 1/8 to 1/4 split shot I might go up this week Ill let you know
Karl Erbacher
11310, RE: pyramid
Posted by wils, Sun Oct-19-03 05:51 PM
all bass canilibize their young.
Its pretty awesome to watch the large stripers feeding on the 6"-10" stripers. Just like watching bait balls getting grouped and fed on in the ocean.