Mike I know you but you don't know me. My partner took that picture of you and your 17 at the lower. He said you’re a cool guy. Please take my advice don't be so quick to jump on Butch's side.I've heard some stuff that came out of his mouth that wasn't so nice about you. And I disagree with you on the lower lake being the same as most other lakes. I’ve fished all over the western lakes and because of Butch I've all but stopped fishing the lower. In his eyes it's his lake. By the way Mike good job on the big bass this year. You seen to have really been rippin them good.