Hey Terry ,You ever hear of Santa Fe Dam or San Dimas Canyon, Peck Road Lake, Whittier Narrows, Legg Lake.I think you get the idea right. I dont know were you live exactly, but San Gabriel Valley is loaded with Honey Hole's. All these place's mentioned above have produced big fish for me and my friend's. Best of all they are usually left alone by the Bass Guru's. In other word's no preassure. Good luck:7