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Amish Ed (Guest)Mon Feb-05-01 10:12 PM
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Went back w/ only the June BugRobos tonight. Had a small one on the first cast, and a 3# on the 5th. I think this was the same one as the other night, but it snapped off as I lifted it up. Now it has two hooks. Got one that was maybe 1# a bit later. Finally got one at the other pond across the street. It was maybe 2#, and took it real shallow. It actually made me jump, as soon as I set the hook it was out of the water. Pulled a final fish that was 2#+ and that one was real shallow also, hanging right under this small drop w/ some weeds on it. Not a bad night.

Amish Ed

  

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Matt (Guest)Tue Feb-06-01 12:18 PM
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The San Juan Village. I got it now. I've seen fish over 5lbs in there. Never caught a big one, but fish to 2.5 lbs.

  

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WadeSat Feb-10-01 09:57 PM
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If they're super shallow like that try a topwater 1-2' from the bank. On my Grandfather's pond they'd chase baby sunfish out onto the bank and nail them when they flipped back in.

Tight lines,
Wade

Tight lines,
Wade

  

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JohnLakeMon Feb-12-01 01:17 PM
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Just over a week ago you caught your first,know yer ripp'n lip,good to hear your stories.Reminds me of when I 1st got started many many years ago.Keep up the good work and remember versatility is the key to being better then average,so dont be afraid to get creative and try new stuff.

Go git 'em

  

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brianMon Feb-12-01 01:28 PM
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Well well well, look who wandered off of the BNT board... Somebody's been a lurkin in these parts. Welcome to the board Lake.
-Brian

  

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JohnLakeMon Feb-12-01 01:31 PM
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I have been here a few times,I just read all this guys posts and just had to say something.It was so simple in the beginning no shows sponsors,tournies,just trying to catch a bass.I hope he stays on this forum I cant wait to here him catch his 1st 5+ then 10+

see ya

  

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Amish Ed (Guest)Mon Feb-12-01 05:04 PM
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No big ones for me, thank you. I'm targeting the small ones. There's more of them to be had, and they're easier to pull on.
No really, these freshwater fish are quite a bit different. I am just begining to get confident w/ the salty ones. Last year was my first where I used plastics 99% of the time for bass, and more than 50% on the pelagics. Now I have a whole new game to try.

Here's a question or two or three for you. How does one differentiate between sub-species of LM? Also, how slow is slow on a slow roll? I have a new spinnerbait to try. Hopefully this one won't like trees like the last three. At $9 a pop it's kinda irritating to see them hanging on branches and not my rod. Also, what is the basic LM angler to have in their box? What are the basic colors? Luckily I've been using lots of freshwater stuff in the salt so I am pretty well stocked for zippers, hooks, bullets, and Carolina Keepers. What else is there, I have an idea, but would like one concise list in front of me.

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Amish Ed

  

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brianMon Feb-12-01 06:33 PM
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Ed,
The beauty of bass fishing, is no two bass fishermen fish the same way. You get to experiment and see what works best for you and your style, that's what determines what's in your box. To start out with, I'd reccommend some crankbaits, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, poppers, and plastics (worms, senkos, brush hogs, maybe some grubs). That'll get you started. Just about EVERY type (notice I said TYPE not brand, or style...) of bass lure has it's place, ie spinnerbaits, jigs, jerkbaits etc. They Bassmasters you see on TV and any pro's or am's for that matter have a good selection of just about every lure type available because conditions dictate what lure will work at that given time, and you'd better have 10 of em in every color!!! Every lake has it's colors, but on the senko side, you can't go wrong with watermelon seed, watermelon/red flake or just plain watermelon. Those are my 3 favorites for the senko. Different guys swear by different senko colors, but I like those (you can search the archives on ncbf.com for senko colors and get a good selection). On the more traditional side, crankbaits are generally shad imitating or crawdad imitating. Sometimes you'll go with chartreuse, or bluegill, or chrome, or something like that, it's also a confidence thing, but mostly they're shad or crawdad. The classic jig color is black/blue. Brown is also a good one. Spinnerbaits are easy, chartreuse and white. Can't go wrong, those are the two almost exclusive colors (except for night fishing, then it's black) for spinnerbaits. The tricky part is blade configuration, colorado blades have more thump while willow leaf blades have more flash. Follow the same rule for buzzbaits, chartreuse, white, and black at night (although I do like that delta special, red and black from rodstrainers, during the day too). Poppers are normally shad imitating, you can't really stray too far from that. Now, plastics. Again, some of this is a confidence thing, and there aren't many "set" colors for plastics. They're probably the most variable baits as far as color choice goes. Often it's just "oh, this one looks sweet", or anything that catches your eye. I'd reccommend buying some grubs or worms in some colors that look good to you, fish em, see what works for ya and go from there. If you find that purple's getting bit for ya, look for different purple baits, or baits with purple accents, or stuff like that. I'd say purple is the most common worm color, but it's not set in stone. There's just soooo many colors for plastics, you can't really designate certain colors as "classic" worm colors because of the huge selection. So that's kinda something you get to mess around with. As for LM ID, there's really only northern and florida strain largemouth. The northerns tend to be more aggressive but don't get as big but the floridas tend to get bigger but are wiser. It's tough to distinguish between the two physically, I heard something about their eyes, like pure floridas have solid black eyes while northerns or northern/florida hyprids have gold rims. Then there's spotted bass which look a lot like largemouth only with samller mouths, and they are much smaller, and have teeth on their tongues. And smallies are easy to identify. Ok, I'm done.
-Brian

  

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swimbaitMon Feb-12-01 06:59 PM
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Ed
Here's a good short list for you

jigs! = 1/2oz and 3/8oz rattle back jigs in black and brown

trailers = 3"x1" super pork black and brown, yamamoto 5" twin tail grubs in brown with purple flake and black with blue flake

trailers that will work by themselves also = black w/ red flake brush hog and watermelon red flake brush hog, full size and baby

buzzbait = strike king jr buzzbait, get gammie trailer hooks

spinnerbait = I don't fish blades much, nichols spinners are good

worms = 7" power worm in tequila sunrise and brown, 4 inch greenie weenie straight tail

drop shot worms = 4" robo worm in aarons magic, whitmer's no name worms (on umaxco.com)

crankbaits = 1/4oz speed trap chrome/white/blue color is good, so is chartreuse/blue back. Also Norman deep little N, and Bomber 7A in crawdad.

Trout Plugs = 9 Inch MS Slammer in dark trout color for obvious reasons.

Swimbaits = 5" green sardine fish trap, brown with tan belly 5" big hammer

Topwater = zara spook, either clear shad looking one, or black.

Pop-r's = Rio and Rio Rico, pick a color.

Rip Baits = Lucky craft Pointer 100, pick a color

rattle traps = 1/2oz chrome/blue, 3/4oz chrome black and Lucky Craft LV-500 in chartruese shad and red.

ok that list got a little long. Gives you something to try in each main category.

-Rob




  

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brianMon Feb-12-01 07:10 PM
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Dang Rob, you've got this guy throwin swimbaits and trout plugs already??? He said BASICS man!!! Have you lost sight of all that's basic in bass fishing? I think these trout plugs are getting to your head. lol. You know it's too far when you consider 9" plugs basic bass fishing tools :-)
-Brian

  

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swimbaitTue Feb-13-01 06:02 AM
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Brian
what do you mean I've lost sight of the basics, I never had sight of the basics in the first place! I do like to fish jigs and cranks, but for the most part I try to do stuff that isn't considered the "normal" way to bass fishin. Bass will hit a lot of funky stuff, sometimes better than the usual stuff, just because they haven't seen it before.
That said, I don't hesitate to use brush hogs and worms and whatnot if I have to.

  

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