...surfer. Yup, I'm sure if you surf fish then you know what I'm talkin' bout. I fished El Porto Saturday morning at dawn. I was one of the first on the beach. Dropped my bucket a little north of the rocks figuring that I should stay away from where the surfers would go. Fished for about 20 minutes then a couple of guys paddled out right in front of me. Whatevers, theres plenty of beach, but they chose to go out right in front of me. Then it happened, he caught a wave and headed straight for my line. Board went under, he went over, tangled up my line and his leash. We managed to undo it and we both went on like it never happened. I myself like to surf, but I have always showed everyone (fishers, swimmers, bodyboarders) respect for theire space. Is it me, or are surfers assuming that the beach is theires? Or are we supposed to yield to them? Don't they know that our hooks are "laser" sharp?
OK, now I feel better that I've vented, on with the report. I managed to hook some manini size perch. Maybe about 6"-8" at most. No sand crabs so I used grubs. Still waiting to hook the fatties or better yet, some Corbina's. There were a couple other people fishin' that morning, if you are reading this I'm just wondering how you did.

"The ocean is big enough for all kinds of people, but to small for enemies."

Kman

Kman,

I'm with you on that. I surf as well not as much as I used to but know the system. Why these Bozos choose to "localize" the beaches as if they were their own is beyond me. I always show courtesy to all of my fellow watermen regardless of what sport they are participating in.

Thats one of the reasons that I enjoy surf fishing the evening hours.

If your not going to eat it release it

Aztecwin

Localism is what makes a beach.....every good surfer has a local beach and youve got to protect. its just the life of a surfer. My home break is Strands and if you are fishing or bodyboarding im not going to move away

>Localism is what makes a beach.....every good surfer has a
>local beach and youve got to protect. its just the life of a
>surfer. My home break is Strands and if you are fishing or
>bodyboarding im not going to move away


I wasn't avocating anyone moving away. My point was that everyone should be able to share this beautiful recreational gift with harmony istead of some bull elephant ego macho trip that some seem to be into. As one that surfed a great deal back in the 60's and 70's I can say that this mentality has always been around. Nothing new.

Aztecwin

>My home break is Strands and if you are fishing or
>bodyboarding im not going to move away

Sorry Sean. But if I'm fishing a certain area first, don't think you can just move in on me like you own it. Small wars between countries are started that way, BUD!! That aint cool and it kind of upsets me that you would think that way.

GO BRUINS....GO RAMS....GO FISHING....!!!!
FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!

GO BRUINS....GO RAMS....GO FISHING....!!!!
FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!

We've had this basic conversation on here once or twice before. The surf zone is an area that's used by a lot of people. Surfers, fisherman, body boarders, swimmers, little kids, you name it. Sometimes there's going to be some back and forth about who's moving in on whose part of the beach. In the name of good taste, let's let this one go, and just do your part to be understanding if the other guy gets a little too close. I really don't feel like watching this thread turn into a bickering session about who encroached on who when.

Let's let it go and keep on with the fishing discussion.

Thanks

-Rob

you're right. I shouldn't have let it get under my skin. Again, my apologies.

GO BRUINS....GO RAMS....GO FISHING....!!!!
FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!

GO BRUINS....GO RAMS....GO FISHING....!!!!
FLOWING THROUGH MY VEINS!!!!

My apologies to everyone. I'm a bit new to the sight and perhaps I should have used better judgment in my post. I'll be sure to keep all further posts on the 'POSITIVE' side. Once again, my bad.
Kman

No need for apologies, it's water under the bridge.

Sean, who are you? Surfed Strands since 84, great calico bite, I will do that tomorrow, but I am curious. You surfing stairs or point? Nice pic of Josh Sleigh at my calico hot spot in the new Surfer. Nice pigdog. How long have you been a "local" at Strands? Go back to Creek if you are going to talk $hit about people who belong and don't belong at Strands. Maybe I know your face and you know mine, maybe not. Maybe we have traded barrels at White Man's. Maybe not. Maybe we can share some clean little a-frames at pipes. No worries, the corbs will be in the corner all summer, Remington will hop you while getting slotted, and we will all appreciate the eye candy on the sand. I hope you aren't one of those joeys from Aliso Viejo, I will see you at the ramp come the first 180 fatty.

If you are a local, you will know how Whiteys got it's name, just so happens a certain regular foot Cal Fishing ripper named it and it stuck. He still rips for a fat guy!

Fat guy??? Your freaking killing me net!

I think we are fortunate in So Cal. Have you heard about the wars on the East Coast with surfers & Fisherman? Try surfing Sebastian Inlet when the fishing is good...Those guys take it to another level big time!

I surf & fish Creek and Strands on a regular basis and there is plenty of room to surf & fish without causing any trouble. You have three main surfing spots at Creek, obviously these areas are where the surfers are going to congregate due to sandbars, reefs, ect....If you decide to cast out in the middle of a pack of guys you are asking for trouble, plain and simple. I have yet to see a problem ever! The Summer will bring the tourist and this when you really need to pick your spots accordingly. Early mornings and evenings are the opportune times to fish IMHO. Just use common sense and we can all enjoy the beach together.

A word of caution: The scenery down at Creek can cause a serious neck injury in the Summer.......

remington

Good post Kelly...Creek is pretty fishable for the most part except in summer (best to go early morning/late afternoon). Surfers are rarely a problem at all...usually it is some tourist spongers or little kids. Sometimes north of gravels, most of the beach is empty, but inevitably, some little kids will start playing in the surf about 30 feet from my line!? They seem to be attracted to fisherman or something...especially when you catch a baby shark!? All the kids come running over when you get one...kind of funny. And Chris, hopefully we will get surf soon...I haven't surfed for a while...need to get out there!

Todd,
I heard you caught a nice corby a little while back. Nice job bro! I can't wait for the sand crabs to start showing and working Gravels for the corbs. I might hit it on Sunday for the morning bite if the surf is weak? Maybe I can talk Chris into going instead of roller blading in W. Hollywood.....J/K net

Kelly

Thanks for the kudos Kelly. That corbina was fun to catch...first of the season for me! However, there are still very few crabs at gravels (I found 5 after 10 minutes of digging!? when I got that corb). I think there are a lot more at strands though. They should be moving in any day though...the fish won't be far behind!

That corbina was fun to get! However, there are still hardly any crabs at gravels (I got lucky that day I got the corb...found 5 medium sized crabs after 10 minutes of digging?!). Mostly micro-crabs now...I hear there are lots at strands though. They should be moving in everywhere soon though...with the fish not far behind!

that picture in surfer is sick dude....that stood out most to me in this months issue....its such a rare wave

gotta love Whities! Sickest right hand tube in OC, bar none, when it is on- Hopefully we will get a few good chubascos to make the left get silly! Nice having a couple of fickle, but all time waves in the old back yard! Watching Potter and Carroll at the point back in the day can only be called epic!!

Not only is Sean brilliant, he has apparently found that funny loop hole in the law that says surfers own the beach...To heck with local fishermen, local bodyboarders (I used to bodyboard 5 times a week by choice, BTW), swimmers, half men, bodysurfers, kids, etc...Boy don't we all wish he didn't figure all this out and wise up...

Jig is up, guys...The surfer knows...Lets all go home now.

-Mike Chung
scombridae1969@hotmail.com

tight lines

"My home break is Strands and if you are fishing or bodyboarding im not going to move away"

some people just don't respect fisherman. i have even had someone tell me that fishermen are nuisances. whatever. they have their sport and we have ours. i had a similar experience on the lake in my boat. seems that the best water to jet ski in was the area i was anchored in. this idiot wouldn't leave even when i asked politely. said that if i didn't like it move!! i told him that fish only inhabit certain parts of the lake and that is spot was one of them and that he could easily ski somewhere else. after him shouting @#$%&*??!! at me i dialed the local sheriff's office. i told them about this ass and that i was an off duty peace officer and could they come out and check this idiot. they sent a deputy out. after the deputy talking to me about what happened, he gave the guy a ticket for disturbing the peace and is probably going to be banned from the lake and fined several hundred dollars for being stuck on stupid.

You'll get a good laugh out of this site. :+

"PWC Elimination"

http://www.west.net/~lpm/hobie/archives/v1-i2/humor.shtml

That was classic! Don't get me started on the Riverslime Randy's on the PWC's.
Thanks for the laugh!

remington

hey pretty cool site. my department doesn't issue out that kind of artillary. come to think about it, they would probably also frown on punching holes in a pwc with my offduty .40 cal glock!!

Monster, although your depatment might frown, we wouldn't! The best PWC are the ones that have been rammed into the launch ramp by the genius trying to operate them. Launch ramp follies in DP are often epic! Nothing wrong with sipping on a cold one after a hard day fishing and watching these idiots in action. "Dude, my lowered truck is sinking in the saltwater while you are ramming our skis into the ramp, how will we get back to Riverside?" On the topic of sponges, driving down the line towards these kooks as they flap around trying to hop you results in some funny facial expressions when they realize that the 6'6" pointed fiberglass baby that they are too weak to learn how to ride goes much faster then their Hasbro pool toy and silly splashing Churchills. I would never run someone over or try to hurt anyone, but there is nothing wrong with drenching them with a bucket of water as they flail on the shoulder. But I do have to admit, belly spins on a sponge in the whitewash are pure style! The wind was blowing this evening, I bailed on the calico session at Strands. Wednesday night baseball on ESPN will work just fine tonight.

By the way, Remington isn't really fat, just a healthy kid. Definetly the point man when you need a fish gaffed!

YES! I WANT ONE! Now... I wonder if we can tweak one to home on Civics with those annoying *#&$&% subwoofers... :)

Fishslayer