I have had big fish on beds and i figured like the moron i am that a stinger hook would get these fish big time. Well basically what ended up happening is , the males would crush this bait so freaking hard, they would hook themselfs and there was nothing i could do about it. So eventually i would have to crank em in, and then attempt to get the female. And of course the female lost all interest because when i caught the male she freaked out and left the area. Ive had this happen to alot of big fish ive found, so i just eventually removed it and still did fine.