no, not one that i caught. i will change it to a brown trout that i did catch on truckee very soon though. no, not related to vera but i did go to live oak high in 1988. the trout were definitely stockers. funny thing was that i was actually throwing mini jigs fishing for crappie. i am almost positive that they were from lake coyote. tim <mailto:timgomes@attbi.com>