Hey Paul sorry I didn't call back last night.It was late when I got in from watching the game. Call me this am,I'll be at home for a little while and then I was thinking of fishing somewhere.I went to the quarries for a couple hours yesterday and didn't get bit;( It is about 6.30 and the winds don't seem too bad. Call me at home...510-792-6474,(Karens awake too)or call my cell....650-387-2240 Swampy