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swimbaitMon Nov-14-05 07:52 PM
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#1209, "why red hooks are bad"


  

          

Ok I confess, I bought some red hooks a while back. I haven't been using them (they were on some spoons and I don't spoon very often) but I took a close look at them tonight. I noticed that they were not as sharp as a regular gammie hook. I checked two different sizes and it was the same on both. It think what's happening is that the red paint over the hooks gets on the tips of the hooks and coats them in a way that makes them less sharp. Anyone else noticed this? I definitely won't use these hooks now because I'd have to sharpen them all first, which is majorly annoying on a #6 treble. This is less of a rant than it is a heads up.

  

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MooseMon Nov-14-05 08:25 PM
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#1210, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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One thing I've never understood, alot of people swear by red hooks. They say that they definately get more bites on red hooks. Now I'm starting to hear quite a bit about this Cajun Red line. Red is the first color to fade under water, so they claim that this red line becomes invisible in a few feet of water. Doesn't that kind of contradict the effectiveness of the red hooks? If the color fades out how can it really have any effect?

Keith
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swimbaitMon Nov-14-05 08:31 PM
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#1211, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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hey quit asking these kind of smart questions, you're messing up the marketing hype! LOL. I think you have a great point personally...

  

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bass kidMon Nov-14-05 08:43 PM
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#1212, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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Mon Nov-14-05 08:45 PM by bass kid

  

          

if red dispears quicker then the red hooks would be good b/c it wouldnt look like theres any hooks on your bait. oh ya i use red hooks all the time on d-shot but i thinks its just a confidence thing for me.

  

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swimbaitMon Nov-14-05 08:50 PM
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#1213, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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So bass kid, ince I'm too lazy to look it up, here is a question... When people say that red is the first color to disappear, does that mean that it turns to black or to what color? I've thought about the reasons why red snapper are red, and I wonder if their red color turns effectively black at a depth where there is very little light penetration ... so it makes the red snapper blend in well with an otherwise dark world?

To me the ideal hook color is still clear :)

  

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magmasterMon Nov-14-05 10:17 PM
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#1214, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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Hey Rob I watched in dis beleif in Oregon when my buddy was catching smallies on cranks. He would switch the red hook from front to back and the smallies would be hooked on the red hook. Tried it down here and didn't make a difference. I don't beleive in them at all but I did witness it make a difference. Just my two cents...

  

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UrbanMon Nov-14-05 11:35 PM
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#1215, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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Ah, its all hype.

Welcome to marketing.

Next up, neon glow hooks, maybe with a bit of rainbow effect.

They will run out of marketing ployes sooner or later.

  

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CodyBTue Nov-15-05 06:52 AM
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#1216, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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Red does not disappear instead the red color will "wash out" to a muted brown/grey. This is why fish like red snapper and such have the red color because at the depths they live at their color suits their environment. The depth at which red will begin to wash out depends largely on the clarity of the water and available light.

Every couple of seasons I keep switching between running a red hook up versus all black or bronze hooks. One idea that I thought about periodically is that the red on our lures/hooks or the red on a baitfish is going to react similarly under the same conditions so the fish might already be recognizing the color as red.

  

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dockboyTue Nov-15-05 06:23 AM
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#1217, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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I think red hooks have their uses. Sure BassPro and others have hyped out "the red theory". But I use them at times in shallow water if I want to see my bait, like when I'm sight fishing with a drop shot rig. When I drop that rig on the bed, I can see that hook flash as I shake it from over 20 feet away. It often works to get at least some bed fish to hit because it's just a bit more visible to both them and me. But like you said, red disappears in deep water. But it is hype to that red will turn black at shallow depths too. It takes about 30 feet of water column for red to begin changing. So, I guess there is 2 sides to the whole red hook thing?

Bass + Fisherman= BAASS ADDICTT!!!

  

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calicokidTue Nov-15-05 06:31 AM
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#1218, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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I definitely think that the whole red hooks thing has been blown out of proportion, but I had an experience just like magmaster's. Me and a buddy were cranking on Melones one morning and we were both getting bit. The thing is, he was catching fish with the red hooks on his bait and I was just getting bit, not sticking anything, with the normal black nickel Gammies. I really do think those hooks were making the fish commmit better for w/e reason. Haven't had that happen down here in SoCal though.

I use them on dropshot too. Someone told me that they got more bites on the red hooks, so I tried them and got sucked into the whole hype, and now it's just a confidence thing for me.

Jake

  

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bass kidWed Nov-16-05 08:37 PM
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#1219, "RE: why red hooks are bad"
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i am not a genious(infact i think i spelld that wrong), but i bought the red hookd way back when i needed some d shot hooks and they were cheaper so i bought them and when i used them i out fished my friend, now if it was b/c we workd out worms diff or the hooks are better, but i jist use them as a confidence thing. i dont think it will make it any worse so might as well try it.

  

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