Fish Chris | Fri Nov-15-02 12:49 AM |
Member since Jul 07th 2002
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#1759, "A hypothetical trophy hunting question......."
Thu Nov-14-02 01:44 AM
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How far out of the box are you guys willing to climb ?
Ok, check this out:
You hear that some guy was using a chunk of hotdog while fishing for catfish, and he sticks a 14 lb Largemouth bass ! Amazing, but surely just a huge coincidence, right ? A few weeks goes by and another guy, also fishing for catfish with a chunk of hotdog, catches a 15 1/2 lb Largemouth !!! But still, this is just way to goofy, and definately not the "In-way" to catch trophy bass. The next year rolls around and the guy with the 14 lb bass from the year before (who has been doing quite well for big cats) catches the lake record BASS, using none other than....... A CHUNK OF FREAKING HOTDOG !!!
My question to you guys is, at what point, if ever, would you start to consider using a chunk of hotdog for trophy bass ???
OK...... now replace the "hotdog" with "nightcrawlers"...... Same question ?
You can probably guess why I am asking this question. Yes, I caught another good one yesterday while fishing a wad of night crawlers (specifically for trophy bass) on my micro-light rod at San Pablo..... 11.7 lbs (will attach a photo..... I held it a little closer to myself, after being ribbed lately, about holding them out... don't know if I like the photo better or not). I'm also quite positive that I will catch more, including some real giants in the future, using this same method. Please remember that your hearing this from a guy who just loves to stick big bass on Swimbaits too..... and on live crawdads.... and on smaller artificials on beds..... and on any other method which is legal and sporting and will put a big bass in the boat !!!
In a nutshell, "Do you want to catch the biggest bass * " Or "Do you want to catch the biggest bass, period" ???
Remember, "the crowds" are not catching big bass on a regular basis...... so if you want to catch them regulary yourself, don't follow the crowd.
Great fishing to all, Peace, Fish
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CJ | Thu Nov-14-02 01:34 PM |
Member since Nov 02nd 2001
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#1763, "RE: A hypothetical trophy hunting question......."
In response to Reply # 3
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I can see it now, the Oscar Meyer crew says that Farmer John franks only catch dinks. Wienerschnitzel kids meals now come with treble hooks and an IGFA information booklet. Berkley comes out with the new Power Dog bait complete with mustard flavored fish attractant.
Okay, on the more serious side, I used to fish a small lake where big bass were suddenly being caught on hot dogs, chicken liver and mackeral.I even landed a 6+ one night while throwing liver for the cats. The only problem ended up being that these bigger bass were making a living as scavengers. I don't know what happened to the bass' natural forage base, but it obviously was not enough to feed the population of fish. Many inexperienced, and uneducated anglers were throat hooking these bass on junk baits and many were dying. I don't know if it was because of anglers or the lack of natural forage, but that lake does not produce many decent sized bass anymore. When you find that big bass are being caught on dead baits, there might be a serious problem with their ecosystem. Or perhaps these bass have outgrown their environment and are not able to be as competetive for natural prey, aside from a winter influx of trout.
There will always be the odd big bass catch on some sort of bogus bait, but when it happens more and more frequently, it might be the old canary in the mineshaft. Bass weren't designed to be scavengers, I doubt they would look to eat dead baits unless they have no choice.
P.S.- Fish Chris, were these big bass you are talking about caught mainly in the summertime, or is this a more recent trend?
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swimbait | Thu Nov-14-02 02:09 PM |
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#1764, "RE: A hypothetical trophy hunting question......."
In response to Reply # 4
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Dude, He's getting them at Pablo right now. The fish look big and healthy. Pablo is an anomaly in the big bass world. The lake has like zero structure. It has a very top heavy bass population. If I took all my fish at Pablo, I bet 1/3 of them were over 7lbs and 2/3 under. I bet half of Fish Chris' fish are over 7lbs. The lake gets tons and tons and tons of trout, every single week from February to November. So big bass have lots to eat, but I sometimes wonder what the small bass have. There are crawdads in there, there are shad and silversides, but I suspect the trout and more recently the spots, really do eat a lot of the baitfish and stuff. It's not an unhealthy lake, it's just a weird lake. Sometimes I wonder if Pablo had weedbeds and clear water what would happen. Would it totally mess it up, or would it make it so these giants could obliterate the trout every single day and get totally humongous, even more than they are now. What I do know is that I'm bummed it's closed for the winter. The jig bite would be a lot of fun. It'll have to wait until February.
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Andy Giannini | Wed Nov-20-02 10:22 PM |
Member since Nov 20th 2002
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#1830, "RE: A hypothetical trophy hunting question......."
In response to Reply # 0
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Chris, It is not an unlikely probability that the next world record largemouth may be caught in an unconventional manner. For example, a lake record brown was caught by a kid with a honest to god french fry, off the end of a dock. Go figure, it was slim, probably darting around knowing kids, loaded with salt, and the fish just ate the thing. So, the question is, will the the new record mean anything less depending on what it was caught on, or the target when the fishing began? I honestly think the next world record may not be caught by a Bass pro, or even a person fishing for Bass. The person that catches it, could turn out to be an incredible ambassador for the sport, or a total embarrassment. For myself, I will just be excited no matter what the terms are. Gob of worms, a guy striper trolling, or Iovino's 101 during a BASSMASTERS. Looking forward to it, A.G. A.G.
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