i almost bought an induron the other day. but had trouble finding one, i ended up calling a company that distributes tackle directly to the retailers and a guy there said theyre not even distributing them to stores any more. and that they wouldnt because of the numerous returns. he said it was one of the highest returns theyve ever had for a reel. he wasnt trying to sell me anything either because i couldnt buy from them direct. but he did say the nitryx had a much better or less return percentage. if that means anything to you.