RE: red everything,
capsman36,
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nathan,
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Bigdaddybasspmp,
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salmonoid 1,
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Lightninrod,
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Alan,
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Striper,
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Urban,
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Tm Customs,
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magmaster,
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Mattlures,
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swimbait,
Jan 21st 2005, #12
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Chris,
Jan 30th 2005, #18
RE: red everything,
Tm Customs,
Jan 21st 2005, #13
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magmaster,
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RE: red everything,
Tm Customs,
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muskyman,
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Tm Customs,
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Durockrolly,
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CV,
Feb 01st 2005, #20
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cyperme,
Feb 02nd 2005, #21
RE: red everything,
Tm Customs,
Feb 03rd 2005, #22
RE: red everything,
salmonoid 1,
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#14546, "RE: red everything"
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You'd figure if they have the means to anodize a hook red the have the means to make one that has a stealthier look about it. Anodize one dark green, or come up with a way to paint one with a light flat green. But then again that wouldn't add to the sporty look of thier soft plastic topwater with flames on it, unfortunately it would only deduct from the gayness factor of the bait. The real kicker is they actually make sales on these things. So for all as much as Johnny Thibadeux from Louisianna makes fun of me for my oversized reels, 8ft. poles and $100 dollar baits. Well I'd have to say I laugh at him just as much for his NASCAR quantum reel, flamming topwaters and neon blue 20lb stren. Andrew
http://www.webspawner.com/users/bigdaddybasspimp/index.html
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Lightninrod | Thu Jan-20-05 04:20 PM |
Member since Oct 31st 2003
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#14549, "RE: red everything"
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Rob: I agree with you but for one thing; I thought the ''red' color was to imitate red "gills" not blood. I shy away from the red craze personally as I too think it's mostly hype.
Dan "Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less"
Deo Vindice
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Alan | Thu Jan-20-05 06:11 PM |
Member since Aug 15th 2004
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#14550, "RE: red everything"
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i'm a believer, at least for senkos. At my home lake here in Austin. I fish the same shallow water set of boatdocks that are in a small secluded area off the main lake. I hit this area probably 40 times a year, with the same setup,,,,6 inch wacky senko on a 4/0 bait hook on a 25lb flurocarbon leader on a mono main line. I fish it all times of the year. Two years ago i made my usual flipping pass thru the docks. There is probably 30 slips in 2 to 4 feet of water. i caught a fish or two. I had some of the red hooks and thought, Why not. I did not have much confidence at first. I used the same bait hook in red, and got bit again like it was my first pass thru the area. The next time out i swear i got bit more, and it increased my confidence. That spring i caught a 27inch 10.6lb spawned out female out of one of those boat slips on the red hook. I had one set of tires that i'd flip to each time...about 70% of the time i'd catch what seemed like the same 3lb fish. I started calling this fish "Rerun". I fished some small jackpot tourneys on the lake, and i'd tell my partner that on the way back to the weigh-in that we needed to stop and catch "Rerun". And Rerun was there both times!
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Urban | Thu Jan-20-05 10:49 PM |
Member since Sep 22nd 2004
402 posts
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#14555, "RE: red everything"
In response to Reply # 0
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It because all other marketing ideas have been exhausted!
Does it help? Who knows, and nobody really will know unless some sort of peer reviewed research is conducted. First pass nothing, second pass with red hook, bingo. Doesnt really mean much, maybe some other more important variable changed slightly, some variable that humans cant detect. There are way too many variables for when and why fish bite, and its been proven that the human brain can only process x number of variables at one time, beyond that we just cant do it.
Presentation, timing, knowledge, and confidence is what puts fish in the boat. And if you have confidence in red hooks, then use them. If you truly believe a red hook will increase bites, you have great confidence when throwing them, you fish better, the results are better and for most the end result is that it was the red hook, not the other things. I do have red hooks, only cause they were given to me free, and I do use them and I do catch fish on them. But I really think that any positive effect from them is miniscule compared to the other variables involved.
PS: while sitting on the couch bored, I found a beer bottle cap in the couch. I got to fiddling with it and by the end of the night I had what looked like a good spoon. First cast I caught a brown trout, Im gonna market this thing and get rich. You all know what Im talking bout.
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Chris | Sun Jan-30-05 11:51 AM |
Charter member
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#14619, "RE: red everything"
In response to Reply # 12
Sun Jan-30-05 11:56 AM by Chris
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So I guess you won't be buying any of my cranks in the Mad Dad pattern! lol http://www.calfishing.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=11&topic_id=955&mesg_id=955&page=
I'm glad the fish like it. }(
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Durockrolly | Sun Jan-30-05 08:40 PM |
Member since Jan 30th 2005
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#14629, "RE: red everything"
In response to Reply # 0
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Personally I prefer the red hooks. When I finness a soft worm I can see the red reflect under water from a further distance than with other hooks. I think maybe the bass see it from a greater distance also. It seems to me I have better luck with the red hooks also. Just my opinion. Elevators smell different to midgets!!!
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salmonoid 1 | Thu Feb-03-05 05:29 PM |
Member since Nov 16th 2002
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#14664, "RE: red everything"
In response to Reply # 22
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An easy way to remember the order in which colors turn to gray or black as a lure drops in the water column is to think of an angler named "ROY G. BIV", who fishes the spectrum according to depth. Of course, ROY G. BIV stands for red, orange, yellow, blue, indigo, and violet.
I believe that the reason that steelhead and trout frequently bite red or pink lures, roe, or plastic worms is that we often fish for them in the top 15 feet, where red has not washed out much yet.
I also like the theory that calls for lures with dark undersides for fish that approach from below (to contrast with the sky as the fish looks up) and lures with light topsides for fish that attack from above (to contrast with the dark bottom).
I think that we may make too much of the change in color/lightness of a lure with increasing depth. Does it really matter that the lure looks different at different depths? What really matters is that that lure at a given depth looks like what the fish are feeding on at the depth or what the the fish will attack as an intruder at that depth. Therefore, "match the hatch" is a good rule that goes far beyond fly fishing. For example, rockfish, lings, and salmon will bite bright chrome jigs and light anchovy/sardine color swimbaits, etc. at great depths although such lures do not look bright at great depths. They likely bite because these lures look like whatever anchovies/sardines look like at those depths.
Bob
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