RE: Huddleston Hook,
Jimmy,
Aug 14th 2004, #1
RE: Huddleston Hook,
branman,
Aug 15th 2004, #2
RE: Huddleston Hook,
Wade,
Aug 16th 2004, #3
RE: Huddleston Hook,
branman,
Aug 16th 2004, #4
RE: Huddleston Hook,
Jimmy,
Aug 16th 2004, #5
RE: Huddleston Hook,
branman,
Aug 17th 2004, #6
RE: Huddleston Hook,
Dave B,
Aug 17th 2004, #7
RE: Huddleston Hook,
J Hinds,
Aug 17th 2004, #8
Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
swimbait,
Aug 19th 2004, #9
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
woodsac,
Aug 19th 2004, #10
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
woodsac,
Aug 19th 2004, #11
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
swimbait,
Aug 20th 2004, #13
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
Dave B,
Aug 20th 2004, #12
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
woodsac,
Aug 20th 2004, #14
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
branman,
Aug 22nd 2004, #15
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
woodsac,
Aug 22nd 2004, #16
RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be,
Doug fm Dallas,
Aug 24th 2004, #17
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Dave B | Tue Aug-17-04 10:55 AM |
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#5054, "RE: Huddleston Hook"
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What are the advantages or disadvantages of using an Owner Stinger treble as compared to a Gamakatsu treble hook?
Thanks!
Dave
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swimbait | Thu Aug-19-04 06:40 PM |
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#5060, "Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
In response to Reply # 7
Thu Aug-19-04 06:50 PM by swimbait
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The quest for the perfect swimbait hook continues ...
I am and have been a big gammie fan, but have honestly been reconsidering some of my hook choices lately. A friend lost a double digit at the boat when a 2/0 gammie round bend got bent out. I had that happen once but luckily the hook bent out as the fish was falling into the net. More recently I have been using VMC 3/0's and sharpening them because I like the larger size hook... but then I bent one out on a 15-20lb class striper ... and then I bent one out on a big bass when the fish jumped and lost the fish. And that's just intolerable.
So I look at the Owner hooks and I like them, but the shiny black color is just a big mental block for me. And then there's the fact that it's kind of small for a 2/0 and slightly heavier than the gammies... and pretty soon I talk myself out of it again.
I did hear that Owner had some 3/0 samples at the ICAST show, but they won't be out for a bit still. If they would make that 3/0 in bronze it would be an incredible hook. Or if gammie would make 2x strong Suprline trebles in 2/0 to 5/0 round bend trebles in bronze, that would be awesome too. It's like c'mon they make a Superline 1/0 in bronze but no Superline 2/0 in bronze!
So as you can tell I just go back and forth and back and forth, but up until now I have been willing to sacrafice the strength of the owner hook to get the more subtle color and thinner wire of the gammie.
My next plan is to buy Mustads in 2/0 to 4/0 for most of my day time fishing and just sharpen them, and use the Owner 2/0's and eventually 3/0's for night time. The Owner will chew up your bait more, but I don't care about that, I care about one thing, putting fish in the net.
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woodsac | Thu Aug-19-04 07:16 PM |
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#5061, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
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I've been dying a lot of my hooks. Spike-It makes a blade dip (for metal). Just simply dip your hook for 5-20 seconds, depending on how dark you want the dye. Pull the hook out of the bottle and it's dry in about 10 seconds. The bottles have a wide top on them to accomodate for most hooks. But the hooks we're using for the swimbaits are too large. Just dip a q-tip in the dye and rub it on the hook. The black is not shiny and will take the 'glimmer' off of your hooks.
This stuff is also great for weights! I dye all of my dropshot weights. They say the main reason to keep your weight on the bottom, is so it doesn't distract the fish. Since I have started dying my dropshot weights, my dropshot fish % has increased.
I normally use green. It can be applied light or dark (almost black) and sometimes red. I went to their site just now and didn't see the green offered anymore though?
http://www.ispikeit.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=2&subcat=14&cat=Blade+Dip
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woodsac | Thu Aug-19-04 07:54 PM |
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#5062, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
In response to Reply # 10
Thu Aug-19-04 07:57 PM by woodsac
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Here is a shot of a ROF5 with a Matzuo 2/0 red treble in front and a Gammie #1 bronze (dyed dark green) in back. The Matzuo's run small. This 2/0 is the exact same size as a Gammie 1/0 round bend bronze.
http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files/2707.jpg
http://www.calfishing.com/dc/user_files/2708.jpg
I know some people don't like the red hooks. But for those of you that haven't tried them, check them out. I'm not too sure about the Huddleston, since I use it more for deadsticking. But on the waking swimbaits, the red treble up front looks just like flaring gill when it swims back and forth. Attachment
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Dave B | Fri Aug-20-04 02:37 PM |
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#5063, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
In response to Reply # 10
Fri Aug-20-04 02:44 PM by Dave B
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Are you putting the dye on lead drop shot or tungsten drop shot lead? I wonder if the tungsten will take a dye?
I do a lot of saltwater fishing and use the dye for my stainless tuna and marlin hooks used in trolling lures. It looks pretty cool with a hook dyed to match say on a black / purple, zucchini, green / yellow or brown / red trolling lure. I don't know if the fish really care or not...but it looks trick!
Dave
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woodsac | Fri Aug-20-04 03:05 PM |
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#5065, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
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I'm putting it on the lead 'finesse' dropshot weights. The long cylinder kind. I use tungsten bullet weights, but they have more of a black tint to them and I haven't tried to dye them.
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woodsac | Sun Aug-22-04 06:49 PM |
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#5070, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
In response to Reply # 15
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Just so everyone knows, the dye from the hook will soak into the plastic. To me it's not a big deal, cause my huddleston's all seem to be paintless after a few trips anyways. I think it gives them character ;-)
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Doug fm Dallas | Tue Aug-24-04 03:22 PM |
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#5073, "RE: Oh where o where can the perfect hook be"
In response to Reply # 9
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Regarding the Mustad hook, I think you may not need to sharpen it or sharpen it very often at all. Two years ago we were each landing bass at least every 15 minutes on Senkos at a Great American Bass Club lake in San Saba. Started having trouble with my hook, which I found had dulled after catching 20 or so. My fishing buddy suggested I check his hook. Checked his on my thumbnail, and it was still sharp! Mustad has been my preferred hook ever since, and fish do not straighten them. I like the relatively heavy weight of the 4.0 for Senkos. (I came to this board due to the recommendation of Long Nguyen with Bass West USA in my quest to become a better swimbait fisherman. 12 bass so far on the same 7" Osprey Talon and 42 bass on the same 3:16 Shad. I have an order in with a friend for the Huddleston Deluxe.) Doug fm Dallas
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