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Jeremyfisher | Tue Jun-15-04 12:28 PM |
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#4765, "RE: 4 week report Swimbait competition"
In response to Reply # 2
Tue Jun-15-04 12:44 PM by Bigreenjobass
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Rob, Thanks for the info.
As for the hook set up. This is the best way I can try to describe what was happening. First, i was fishing the bait in a kind of odd way, I was fishing the bait like a senko. Not a normal trout bait where its a constant retrieve end. So that is the first problem, they were inhaling and I had slack in my line. So what was happening is I was pretty much sight fishing obsessively. And no, not for bedding bass, just for cruisers. Once the bait got too deep to see, I would just slowly reel it in. I saw every one of the fish that I lost actually come up to the bait and flare the gills. The 15 made the huddleston look like a baby fluke. :( I rigged a stinger hook after I lost her running back behind the first hook and imbedded the second treble near the rear fins on the huddleston. Never had a bite after I added the stinger. But when I was losing all those fish when I would see them eat the bait, I would try and set the hook as soon as possible, and there were two results that would happen each time a fish ate it. First, I would react a second too late, and they would inhale and exhale the bait before I could get the hook in them, OR, I would react quickly enough and barely stick her in the side of the mouth in which she very easily throw the bait on her first jump. Needless to say I was sick to my stomach and it hurt, but I was too excited about the fact that they were eating it. I am taking a break from the fishing saving up some more money and going back out there for another 4 weeks ( Im on the water 4 weeks straight literally, I just sleep in the boat) for another trip, and I think ill go back with a super sharp stinger hook, thats not too big because of the super clear water.
Another thing worth noting. There were many fish that would come up to the bait as it was sinking and they would just watch it from like 2 inches away if that inspecting it. And many times they would turn and run. Well, I got some megastrike fish attractant afterwards and just absolutely soaked the bait in that. This worked wonders, I had twice as many fish actually inhale and hold on to the bait long enough to hook them after this. It made a world of a difference. I had never used fish attractant before this, but now im a firm believe in it. Mainly with baits that they inspect before inhaling. I think its extremely important.
If TW doesn't carry them soon, I guess ill have to order directly.
http://www.calfishing.com/gallery/v/members/bigreenjobass/
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swimbait | Tue Jun-15-04 12:53 PM |
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#4766, "RE: 4 week report Swimbait competition"
In response to Reply # 3
Tue Jun-15-04 12:56 PM by swimbait
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Sounds like you learned a lot :) Too bad some learning experiences are really painful, but we have all been there. The bigger the bass are, the better they are at getting away. And when it's really hard to get a fish to bite your bait, sometimes you wind up making stupid mistakes because you are trying to push the envelope to get bit and you're doing things that might not be the best idea when it comes to landing the fish.
I'm big on the megastrike scent also. It is by far the best scent for putting on a big bait because it actually lasts and stays on the lure for a long time. Hot sauce is good, but megastrike lasts longer. And one tube lasts forever. I use it every trip and am still on my first tube.
When you get a really big fish on, sometimes it's uncontrollable and you just have to cross your fingers and hope it stays on. There are some fish that no matter how hard you might pull or how far you stick your rod under the water, the fish will jump completely out of the water anyway. There are a few things you can try though that might help.
If you see the fish eat your bait, you can try to set the hook across the fish's face so that you get a hook in the corner of the mouth. Setting straight up and down and getting a hook in the roof of the mouth only works if you get the hook completely through the roof of the mouth. It's easy to get roof of the mouth shots on 3lbers. The odds of that happening on a 10lb fish are pretty slim. It's not something you always have control over, but it's something you can try if you are quick enough to see what's happening.
The other thing is to just be aware of hook angles, especially when the fish is close to the boat. I totally try to lead fish around in a way that keeps tension on the line and on the hook so that the hook is always holding tight and not pointing in some weird direction. In my float tube or kickboat, if I can get a fish in pretty close to me, I'll catch it almost every single time because I'll start paddling in a circle really fast, leading the fish around and around and around until it's tired. I call that move the death spiral, lol. I started doing that for halibut fishing in the ocean and it worked really good for bass as well. Can't exactly do that in a boat though ;) That's when you need the 6' net handle and a huge net on the end.
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