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swimbait | Wed Oct-27-04 10:23 PM |
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#5240, "Major News at San Pablo Dam"
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Some major news recently at San Pablo. Seismic studies have shown a risk of the dam collapsing during a major earthquake. Because of this, EBMUD has drained the lake much lower than normal this year and it currently sits at 23.5 feet below full capacity. Articles on EMBUD's website and ABC 7 news suggest strongly that this low water level will be maintained, and that the lake will be completely drained to retrofit the dam in the near future!
You can read the articles here:
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/102704_nw_san_pablo_dam.html
http://www.ebmud.com/water_&_environment/water_supply/current_projects/san_pablo_dam/default.htm
Now, the question to fisherman is - what is the impact here?
The short sighted view of the dam being drained and a major fish kill occurring is that it will mean bad fishing and we should all be pissed. For trout fisherman, this draw down will really suck. And for bass fisherman in the near term this draw down will really suck too! It appears likely that there will simply be no fishing at San Pablo for a period of several years.
However, a long term view of these developments could mean very good things for bass fisherman. As some of you know, San Pablo had spotted bass introduced in the lake sometime 5 or 6 years ago, possibly longer. The spotted bass, eroding shoreline cover, turbid murky water, and several other factors have combined to really hurt the trophy largemouth population in 2004. Ask the crappie fisherman where all the great crappie fishing has gone. Ask anyone if they have caught a bluegill. They haven't, because the lake is dying off! And this year even the trophy bass started to dry up. If the lake is drained, and all fish are removed or killed, spotted bass COULD actually be eradicated from the lake. The lake could be re-seeded with fish and brought back to life.
A lot of other scenarios unfold from this thing if they do drain it and kill it off completely. Trophy bass could be moved to other lakes or even stored sort of temporarily in briones. But ... EBMUD would have to be very careful not to transport any spots.
In any case, they say stakeholder input will be considered. I'm a stakeholder and you better believe I'm going to give my input. I'd encourage everyone to give their input. Think about things in the long term, be constructive. In 10 years maybe we'll have a great lake again.
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RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
BobH,
Oct 28th 2004, #1
RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
swimbait,
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Wade,
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RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
swimbait,
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RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
Wade,
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RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
swimbait,
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RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam,
salmonoid 1,
Oct 29th 2004, #10
RE: Dude ! This is HUGE !!!,
Fish Chris,
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RE: Dude ! This is HUGE !!!,
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RE: Dude ! This is HUGE !!!,
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RE: Hey dude....,
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swimbait | Thu Oct-28-04 10:40 AM |
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#5248, "RE: Major News at San Pablo Dam"
In response to Reply # 1
Thu Oct-28-04 01:16 PM by swimbait
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Good question - who IS a stakeholder. The whims of the personnel at EBMUD will probably determine that. But people who make noise are going to get recoginzed during this process. EBUD will have to take some input from the public whether they want to or not, and big stinks will be raised from many sides, you can guarantee it.
You can bet there will be a stink about bird habitat being lost during the draw down. The audobon society or whatever local birdwatching orgs will get involved and have a say. Can you blame them? The ospreys, eagles, terns, and ducks that have come to rely on San Pablo will all be affected by the drawdown. And to think that the same people who ensured the lake is closed from November to February each year to protect migratory waterfowl will rest on their laurels when the lake is drained is a pipe dream. They'll be there for sure to get heard.
And maybe when they flush out the lake, the water running down the stream will attract some steelhead or salmon into the creek. Organizations like San Pablo Watershed Neighbors Education & Restoration Society http://www.aoinstitute.org/spawners/index.html will have a say for sure. Can you blame them? Steelhead were running in San Pablo creek for centuries before the creek was dammed.
Maybe when they do the inevitable EIR's on the draw down, someone will find a red legged frog or an endangered turtle. Or maybe non-native turtles will be found (like at some North Bay lakes like Apline and Soulajoule). I know I've seen a fair number of turtles hiding back in the back of scow in the spring. People who are advocates for turtles and frogs will have a say, and can you blame them? Turtles and frogs have been there long before the creek was dammed.
But you know what I think the majority of fisherman will say? They'll say things just like the quotes in the ABC7 News article. "I hate it" and "It's Terrible". And they also won't take it one step further. They'll just sit back and bitch and that will be that. And they'll wonder why the birds and the frogs and the turtles and the steelhead will get so much attention during the drawdown, while the regular fish in San Pablo wind up dying in a puddle. The reason will be because they didn't realize they were stakeholders too, and that if they make the right kind of noise, something can get done to build a better future for the lake. Noble thought or foolish dream? You can decide for yourself.
The fisheries and wildlife director at San Pablo Dam is Roger Hartwell rhartwel@ebmud.com. The Ranger Supervisor is Elizabeth Hill ehill@ebmud.com. I'd encourage everyone who gives a crap to write call or email, and don't be an ass who says "this sucks we hate it" ... take a few minutes to think about the long term. Think about all the positives that could come from this. Be nice and be constructive and let them know that as a fisherman, you're concerned and you want to make sure your voice gets heard when the lake is rebuilt.
My message to them is going to be as follows:
Habitat The lake needs habitat. It needs habitat for bluegill, shad, crappie, and bass. The lake's habitat has been eroded and washed away by natural processes and by boat wakes. Let's organize a habitat program, just like at Chabot and Quarry Lakes, just like the Diablo Valley Fishing Club did in 1980-81 when San Pablo was drained and re-filled. Let's put a no wake speed limit on the lake like the 10mph limit at Del Valle to prevent further erosion when the lake is refilled. Let's put a plan in place for regular habitat additions in the future.
Saving What Fish are Left When the lake is drawn down, don't just go for one day and electrofish a few hundred fish to be transplanted to other lakes. Let's spend a few weeks getting the big bass out. Let's get the catfish, the sturgeon, and maybe even the trout too if they won't die. Let's take EVERY PRECAUTION not to transplant any spotted bass. Then let's have a plan to put a reasonable amount of fish in Briones as a holding area until the lake is refilled. Let's take the rest to other local lakes like Lafayette, Chabot, Shadow Cliffs, Quarry Lakes, etc to help improve those fisheries there.
Killing and Starting Fresh When the fish are taken out and the lake is as low as it will get, rotenone the entire thing and kill every fish that is in there. The amount of rough fish in San Pablo is incredible and there will never be a better chance to remove them. Carp, goldfish, spotted bass, and who knows what else could all be eliminated.
Restocking Before San Pablo Dam was opened to the public, people like Bob Nuzum at EMBUD worked to make it a great fishing lake. They stocked subcatchable rainbow trout, they stocked bluegill, black crappie, catfish, and they stocked 7,000 yearling bass and augmented that with around 1200 adult bass from Briones Res. The result was one of the best fishing lakes in the bay, so let's do it all again. If the bass are removed and put in Briones ahead of time, those same big bass can be put right back in to the lake when it refills.
Managing so it Doesn't Die The biggest mistake that we see made time and time again is that new or rebuilt lakes get opened to the angling public and then the angling public does their level best to ruin it. With a fresh start the lake could be managed to produce a sustainable bass fishery. For crying out loud, EBMUD, DFG, please please please don't reopen the lake to a 5 bass 12" minimum limit. Look what happend at Diamond Valley, they were forced to almost immediately change the limit because people were keeping hundreds and thousands of bass. Why can't we learn? Manage the lake with a slot, or manage it with a 2 fish or 1 fish maximum size limit. Sample the lake annually with electrofishing and adjust the limit to match the fishery.
This is not some new idea here. Lakes around the country are managed like this all the time. There just seems to be a pervasive apathy in California about managing warm water fisheries. It's probably because even with no management, many of our lakes are great all on their own. What I think we don't realize is that our lakes could be better than great, they could be world class. Here's an opportunity for anglers to get involved in building a world class lake. And when they say stakeholders will get a chance to say something, I'm in.
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Fish Chris | Thu Oct-28-04 07:48 AM |
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#5244, "RE: Dude ! This is HUGE !!!"
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Maybe the best thing for that poor old lake though. It's funny, I was recently talking to Josh, and I had made the statement, "Honestly, I think the only thing that could fix Pablo would be to drain the darn thing and start over".... but then I added, "And I know they are not going to do that...." Well surprise, surprise ! Maybe not for us fishermen.... but because of an earthquake danger, apparently so.
Pablo might just be an awesome fishery again someday.... I'd give it a minimum of 10 years (after draining) to have some real giants again. But even so, we all know that there are a lot more factors required "besides time" for a lake to end up with giant Largemouths.
Hmmmm, Fish
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