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Hooked_Up | Mon Feb-14-05 10:18 AM |
Member since Mar 27th 2003
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#5759, "Jig Help!"
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Gosh its soooo frustrating! I really have no knowledge at all when it comes to picking jig colors.The trusty blk and blu isnt cutting it, and when i try to match the native craw color, i cant get bit. All i would like is for someone to give me some insight as to what colors they use in what kind of water clarity/light. Any help guys would be appreciated! thanks soo much.
Just to give u insight.. I fish mostly weedy ponds and lakes, some gin clear, some dark/stained but not muddy. No deeper than 15ft. All help is appreciated. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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RE: Jig Help!,
woodsac,
Feb 12th 2005, #1
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Tm Customs,
Feb 13th 2005, #2
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Striper,
Feb 13th 2005, #3
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Hooked_Up,
Feb 13th 2005, #4
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bassinzink,
Feb 13th 2005, #5
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Hooked_Up,
Feb 14th 2005, #6
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bassinzink,
Feb 14th 2005, #8
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Fishing805Fever,
Feb 14th 2005, #9
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Fishing805Fever,
Feb 14th 2005, #10
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Hooked_Up,
Feb 14th 2005, #11
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swimbait,
Feb 16th 2005, #12
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magmaster,
Feb 16th 2005, #13
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J Hinds,
Feb 16th 2005, #14
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Hooked_Up,
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woodsac | Sat Feb-12-05 10:48 PM |
Member since Jul 17th 2002
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#5760, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 0
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I fish jigs a lot!!!! All year long. The jig bite was one of the hardest for me to learn. I don't know how many times I fished it without even a nibble x(
I finally took nothing out but the jig on 2 trips. On the second trip I caught my 1st jig fish, a little over 3 lbs :7
I mentioned all this because in the process of learning, I constantly switched colors, sizes, etc. Not necessary. Sure there are times when you'll need to change size or color. But for starting out, keep it simple!!! Brown and black will cover almost any situation. I recommend 3/8 oz till you are comfortable.
For trailers, almost anything goes :P But again, try and keep it simple at first. Maybe a regular old zoom chunk (or something similar) in watermelon or green pumpkin. Those are just good all around natural colors. Fish the jig anywhere you would fish a worm. If you go into an area and catch a fish on a t-rig, switch to a jig. Once you catch that 1st jig fish, it will boost your confidence!! Then when you're comfortable, you can put something a little bigger on the back of that jig...like a Woodsac Lure craw :+
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Striper | Sun Feb-13-05 09:03 AM |
Member since Nov 27th 2004
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#5763, "RE: Jig Help!"
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Jig color has nothing to do with it! You said, your fishing in less that 15'. Most likely your fishing to shallow. Most lakes, the bass are just starting to stage on deep water structure. The lakes I fish are still way to cold (50-53d) for any pre-spawn shallow water situations. We have been catching are fish in 30-40 ft. on white 3/4 oz. spro jigs fished very slowly up-hill. A good rule of thumb on jig/lure colors, is clear water-light colors, dark water-dark colors. But, don't worry about specific color, it's of little consequence. A bass doesn't care if the jig is black, brown or green, if it's presented correctly, he/she will eat it. Water temperature is the key for finding fish and lure presentation is the key to catching fish.
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Hooked_Up | Sun Feb-13-05 07:26 PM |
Member since Mar 27th 2003
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#5768, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 3
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Ok, wel then lets talk about presentation as well. How is it presented in an attractiv manner to big bass? Slow doesnt cut it. What is the tecnique?..Walk me through a cast.. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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bassinzink | Sun Feb-13-05 08:18 PM |
Member since Jan 11th 2003
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#5769, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 4
Sun Feb-13-05 08:19 PM by bassinzink
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Most of my jig fishing is flip it in, pop it once, twice, let it sit, pop once more than pull out and hit the next spot. I flip or make short pitches most of the time when fishing a jig. When I make casts or longer pitches I tend to let it settle on the bottom, hop it once and then I start to slowly drag it with my rod tip, not the reel. I like to give it a pop every once in awhile to give it the scared craw trying to get away into a hole look. I usually get my bites on the fall when flipping and short pitches into heavy cover and on the pause when I drag. My fav. color is blk/blue, then brown/purple cz
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Hooked_Up | Mon Feb-14-05 06:17 AM |
Member since Mar 27th 2003
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#5774, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 5
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Ok so have you found that a paeticular color does better in certian water clarity? IM really trying not to waste my fishing time if im throwing a color that the fish will not react to as well. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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bassinzink | Mon Feb-14-05 10:16 AM |
Member since Jan 11th 2003
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#5780, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 6
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I pretty much found two colors that I have confidence throwing. I guess i like the black jig in dirty, stained water, and either the brown/purple, or a brown/watermelon combo in clearer water, but I have used both in opposite situations and caught fish. Just take two rods one with a black jig, your choice of color for trailer, and a brown jig your choice of trailer, and fish them all day, for no bites if you must. Then do it again, it took me three trips before I caught my fist jig fish. Then it was like fish, fish, fish, once you learn how to hop it and drag it along the bottom like a craw, the fish will eat it. cz
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Fishing805Fever | Mon Feb-14-05 10:35 AM |
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#5781, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 8
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http://calfishing.com/gallery/brianb/bhdfg_049 these are some of the colors popular in my area,for clearer lakes i 'm working on an oxblood colored bait w/some blue, and brown and pruple always seems to work well in most water conditions.these i made myself but companies like assault makes some great jigs. brian
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Fishing805Fever | Mon Feb-14-05 10:36 AM |
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#5782, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 9
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also my favorite trailer is a zoom brush hog with a lil bit off the end. :-)
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Hooked_Up | Mon Feb-14-05 11:08 AM |
Member since Mar 27th 2003
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#5783, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 10
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Well i ahve caught some fish over 9 on the piccasso with a worminator creature style as a trailer, but i cant seem to get a pattern. I get bored with one color, switch and catch a fish, get bored with that color, switch, and catch a fish. Its just kind of frustating becaise i am changing my whole out look on bass fishing were as i used to be able to get a pattern on a crank bait, but with fishing for big bass, this isnt the case with jigs.. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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swimbait | Wed Feb-16-05 11:00 AM |
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#5794, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 11
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Hooked_Up,
It may be that jigs just aren't the best bet at your lake. Some lakes are just poor jig lakes for whatever reason.
I do believe that color is important, but it's more about shade than color. If the water is murky, looks black colored or dark green, I like a black jig. I seriously only fish one color of black jig and it's black and red. If the water is clear, has light green or pale brown grass, or the bottom is generally brown or sandy, then I use brown jigs. I like the Assalt brown/copper color or just plain brown. It's kind of vague, but I try to go with what looks right. Sometimes black jigs look right in the water and other times brown jigs look right. Throw your jigs in 1 foot of water and look and see if they 'look right'
For my black/red jigs I like black/red trailers :) For the brown jigs I'll go with watermelon red flake, brown, or brown/purple. I like the red bluegill Assalt spyder grub on my brown jigs because it has a neutral look to it. The color is basically smoke with red/gold/silver flake. But it's not flashy at all in the water. Some guys like contrasting jig trailers, I don't. Crawdads aren't contrasting, they're one color and I want my jig to be basically one color or one shade.
What about the rest of your setup? What pound test are you using and what is the water visibility exactly? Maybe you need to go down in line size to get bit if the water is clear. Take a minute to read about Mike Long's 17.2 at Jennings on bassfanarmy.com
http://www.bassfanarmy.com/bfa_news_article.asp?id=26
I don't think Mike is pulling any punches there and the key thing he says is that he's using 12lb. If you're looking at 8+ foot visibility, its' going to be hard to get bit on a jig on 20lb. It can happen but it's just less likely.
My main message though to you is that maybe it's just not the right thing for the conditions right now at the lakes you are fishing. I know it's easy to get caught up in wanting to learn a certain technique because you see people getting fish on it, but that doens't mean you can ignore the realities of the conditions where you are fishing. A more productive thing if you want to expand into new techniques might be to take what works for you already, then try to expand on that with similar baits, different colors etc.
-Rob
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Hooked_Up | Thu Feb-17-05 05:57 AM |
Member since Mar 27th 2003
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#5805, "RE: Jig Help!"
In response to Reply # 14
Thu Feb-17-05 06:10 AM by Hooked_Up
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I am throwing a 12lb Flourocarbon P-Line right now. Its really abrasion resistant and i grew up fishing "light" line anyways so it cool. I honestly think its one of 2 things.. Color, or presentaion. I guess i need to work on both:-( But I will find my nitch again hopefully with a little helo form you guys:-)
So what is the strike percentage and how can i make that go up in colder water?
Oh and i am fishing in Richmond,Va./.. Thats right.. East Coast big boys.. Not any trophy fish pressure, but i just need to refine my tactics. Talk is cheap; Just show me the picture!
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