Braid is definitely the key, i fish both ways w/ my rod tip up or down. I usually work em w/ moderate speed until i hit a open pocket, then i let it sit on the edge of a bit, then slowly drag it into the hole. Stuck a solid 6plus at the same pond CJ got his frog fish using hat technique. Were you at the gestapo late David or at Yorba? You should really try froggin the Gestapo pond, chris and i were talking about how awesome that place is, you can catch frog fish that rival the fish you'd catch at the bigger lakes. take care.

Tsunami