I hear a lot of hype about the optima swim baits, but personally, they haven't done me any good whatsoever! My most recent discovery is another bait by AA's. Last year, I found the little 3" frogs. Those worked great for most any bass. This year, I discovered the AA's water-dog. When I found them at the local tackle shop, they were available in 2 colors. Brown with a white underside, and motor-oil green with pepper fleck with chartreuse limbs and a white underside. I bought a pack of each (5 count @ $4.50 a bag). They measure about 6 or 7 inches long and look like a lizard on steroids with a big head and a curly tail. The first night I used this bait at the local quarry, I got 5 fish on them, and every one was over 2 #'s. The largest was 4 1/2 #'s. I know that is not huge, but it was a great night for me. I prefer the green ones myself. At the Fred Hall show this year, I saw the water-dog baits in the AA's booth. They had the 6 inchers and a larger version that was well over 8 inches. I would have bought some but I was discouraged over the lack of detail in the body and no curly tail when compared to the smaller ones. I'll stick with the 6 or 7 inchers and keep catching big bass. Plus, you get the added bonus of catching a lot of them as well. So I cast my vote for the AA's 6" Green & Chartreuse Water-dog baits. Go get em!!!